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Thursday, July 31, 2014

And an Interview will lead them...by the nose...

What's up minions?

Have you all heard about Rob's Esquire interview?  

muahahahaha....yes I'm certain you've read it, heard about it and so forth and so on...LOL

Well it's certainly been the talk of the fandom for the last several days and I discussed it with many of you on Tuesday thinking we'd covered just about all there was to say only to wake up yesterday with my inbox FULL! 

First, I just want to applaud my fellow Rob and Kristen fans because most of you called a spade a spade and saw the Esquire article for what it was!  I had very few "oh woe is me" comments in my inbox...and who knows the few I had may very well have been from the FAINTERS just disquising themselves as distraught fans.  

I was not originally planning on beginning this post quite this way when I decided this was how I was going to handle my full inbox...but this morning after one particular comment this is how I'm choosing to proceed....

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(blogger note: as usual all italicized text are anonymous comments/questions unless otherwise noted.)

Cognitive distortions are simply ways that our mind convinces us of something that isn’t really true. These inaccurate thoughts are usually used to reinforce negative thinking or emotions — telling ourselves things that sound rational and accurate, but really only serve to keep us feeling bad about ourselves. You're welcome! :)

I received this message early Tuesday morning prior to the Esquire article coming out and just left it thinking how best to answer this.  I looked at this comment/helpful information in two ways.  Either this anon was trying to diagnose me or was assisting me in diagnosing many of the FAINTERS.  I'm pretty certain I'm the patient being referred to...LOL...but really I have to thank my anon's assistance because I think this accurately illustrates what seems to be going on with some in this fandom at this time.  

I spoke with a friend that is a psychologist and sent her this little ditty and she agreed that my anon was attempting to diagnose me saying that I believe in my theory so much that I've convinced myself that it's true when in reality it's not...that I'm using my theory to protect me from some greater pain in my real life (LOL..real life is going great by the way!).  

Well I think in truth there is a greater portion of fans out there that are doing just this.  They see my theory and more than likely see the truth in it and in order to protect themselves from some greater personal pain have created elaborte "fantasy situations, shield" as my psychologist friend deemed it to protect themselves from bitter events and stituations in their lives.

So now we know what we are dealing with.  

And I believe it is these ppl that Esquire determined where their target audience for their article about Rob.  Did Esquire know all the ins and outs and issues that some of these fans face.  No...but they know that there are fans that don't like Kristen and discuss the incident of over two years ago incessintly. 

These are the ppl that Esquire handed Rob over to....



Here are some examples of some interesting anon's reactions to this interview....

Rob was excellent in his interview and made it clear without unnecessary drama that he and Kristen are not together and there is no "Love Child". He has always been a gentleman. As much as I am sad that this has all come to an end It's time to accept his words. He has set an example of kindness and I think it's time to say good bye to Robsten. The sooner we accept this the sooner we can focus on Rob and Kristen individually. Hope this can unite fans again.

well now he done it, he said what was on his mind, like it or not it can be all made up about this interview he spoke to a man who is his friend, he went to his house as a friend he talked to him as a friend why hi friend is going to tell lies about him? we better believe in his words[rob] now it is all over the news, tv there i no way out and he did it knowing what would happening soon , sorry for who still believ they are together sad but truei m glad she is far away from it God love you K


What's the point in all this? R/K could have privacy and be together IF they really wanted to. But they don't. And so the whole world-media, tabloids, &random people sightings- is helping them hiding this relationship/secret child? No one cares that much except desperate shippers (who are dropping by the hour) You all have gone so far you're seeing things that aren't there, and ignoring the truth.


I'm sure you had a conference with your friend HKN to find some sort of excuse for Robs interview. Doesn't matter..what he said, he said. If he didn't say it, he would sue the magazine. What matters is that there is No marriage and No a Sweet P and you and HKN are the laughing stock of the entire fandom on both sides of the coin. So until the Epic comes out, you are a fool and will always stay a fool.


Regardless of your beliefs about R/K, this BS has perpetuated itself bc it was left untouched by both parties. This has escalated due to the no response policy by RK. I can make a list of the reasons, but that is futile. A couple, bf/gf/ husband/wife and or father/mother would never let this mayhem ensue about each other. Most of it is downright hateful and vile. Use you deductive reasoning and there is only one conclusion.


She wasn't recently seen with his backpack and guitar. They had TWO backpacks, they were given multiples of many things like sunglasses, backpacks, jackets, etc. And he gave her his OLD guitar case several years ago. He got a new one. It's not rocket science. He didn't want it any more and gave it to her. They are not together and they haven't been for well over a year now. The interview is not fake, he knows what he's saying. He's done with her, and he's so much better off without a cheater.


To go after a journalist who graduated from Cambridge and has been doing this for many years and a reputable magazine is pathetic. Just like you.


I love that Esquire interview so much because it makes you mad. lol


Girl, it is so obvious that he's talking about his and K's breakup and K cheating on him when he says shit happens. So, sorry but I chose to believe that they are not together anymore.


just accept the fact that they are over. I

Rob mentioned where he currently lives and mentions his next door neighbor in the interview. He wouldn't mention his neighbor if he didn't live there. The evidence is mounting. So that solves the mystery of where he lives. Rob said he was single in another interview. He said he didn't have kids in this interview. It is pretty clear.

you are too delusional. then do you care to explain what rob was talkin about when he said "shit happens" ? he really said that you know, the magazine can't put something he didn't say.


So what are you trying to say? That the interviewer just made up the quotes? I don't think that they are allowed to write things that the person didn't say. Then what was Rob referring to when he said " shit happens" and "The hardest part was talking about it afterwards. Because when you talk about other people, it affects them in ways you can’t predict"?? I can't think of anything else rather than his breakup with K and the incident.


I think fans if rk need to stop reading these magz at all if u cant handle it.


Yeah you just keep saying that Rob is not gonna be happy when he sees the interview. If he had been so bothered with people who had been rude to Kris he would have done something so far. But he hasn't. The papz still harass her, the interviewers still say shit about her, the media still dismisses her. So I don't believe that Rob loves her enough to stop them talk shit about her. Or they are already over so Rob has nothing to do with Kris.




So these my dear minions are the comments that I received from the FAINTERS yesterday and early this morning.   I have a hard time taking any of these comments seriously.  These ppl call me delusional and yet they read this article and read things in it that are not there!

Yes, this article ticked me off, but less the article cause this is just another day ending in "y" in this fandom, but more because of this type of response.  More because ppl either read into what's not there or they don't read what is there.

I've mentioned plenty of times that y'all need to learn to read critically.  And here I'm talking to most all y'all as Reese Witherspoon would say.

I'm beginning to realize that many of you have no idea what I mean by that.  I think you think that I mean you should read things and then criticize them...and that's not what reading critically means at all.

So...a little lesson from Mama Nails...I was a former teacher you know...



What Is Critical Reading?

Note: These remarks are primarily directed at non-fictional texts.

Facts v. Interpretation
To non -critical readers, texts provide facts. Readers gain knowledge by memorizing the statements within a text.

To the critical reader, any single text provides but one portrayal of the facts, one individual’s “take” on the subject matter. Critical readers thus recognize not only what a text says, but also how that text portrays the subject matter. They recognize the various ways in which each and every text is the unique creation of a unique author.

A non-critical reader might read a history book to learn the facts of the situation or to discover an accepted interpretation of those events. A critical reader might read the same work to appreciate how a particular perspective on the events and a particular selection of facts can lead to particular understanding.
What a Text Says, Does, and Means: Reaching for an Interpretation

Non-critical reading is satisfied with recognizing what a text says and restating the key remarks.

Critical reading goes two steps further. Having recognized what a text says , it reflects on what the text does by making such remarks. Is it offering examples? Arguing? Appealing for sympathy? Making a contrast to clarify a point? Finally, critical readers then infer what the text, as a whole, means , based on the earlier analysis.

These three steps or modes of analysis are reflected in three types of reading and discussion:
What a text says – restatement
What a text does – description
What a text means – interpretation .


You can distinguish each mode of analysis by the subject matter of the discussion:
What a text says – restatement – talks about the same topic as the original text
What a text does – description – discusses aspects of the discussion itself
What a text means – interpretation — analyzes the text and asserts a meaning for the text as a whole


Goals of Critical Reading

Textbooks on critical reading commonly ask students to accomplish certain goals:
to recognize an author’s purpose
to understand tone and persuasive elements
to recognize bias

Notice that none of these goals actually refers to something on the page. Each requires inferences from evidence within the text:
recognizing purpose involves inferring a basis for choices of content and language
recognizing tone and persuasive elements involves classifying the nature of language choices
recognizing bias involves classifying the nature of patterns of choice of content and language

Critical reading is not simply close and careful reading. To read critically, one must actively recognize and analyze evidence upon the page.
Analysis and Inference: The Tools of Critical Reading

These web pages are designed to take the mystery out of critical reading. They are designed to show you what to look for ( analysis ) and how to think about what you find ( inference ) .

The first part —what to look for— involves recognizing those aspects of a discussion that control the meaning.

The second part —how to think about what you find— involves the processes of inference, the interpretation of data from within the text.

Recall that critical reading assumes that each author offers a portrayal of the topic. Critical reading thus relies on an examination of those choices that any and all authors must make when framing a presentation: choices of content, language, and structure. Readers examine each of the three areas of choice, and consider their effect on the meaning.

As any good teacher knows...don't reinvent the wheel if you don't have to.....so here you have it...critical reading 101....

so...let's go back and look as some of the comments above for a few giggles shall we?  Yes, Yes we shall!



O God...I went back up to read what they wrote and I can't...I just can't.  Their words speak for themselves.  I'm sure in their minds what they wrote makes perfect sense to them.  They read that article and just had a hay day... or more likely they saw some of our reactions to the article and just made assumptions based on our comments about what was in the article.  Because there's no way that these ppl actually READ the same article that I read.  NO WAY!


I particularly like the comments from my "friend" from Keller, TEXAS...yes there are some anon's who's writing stands out that I can tag their comments without even looking at my tracking information and she's one of them.  She's absolutely obsessed with my blog and what I say and I think that the diagnosis above might fit her to a T!  Well..it would if I was actually doing armchair psychoanalysis...LOL

But this is the comment above that says that Rob did this interview with his friend....The writer clearly stated that though he'd interviewed Rob before Rob had no recollection of meeting him and the writer had him over to his home, not the other way around.  So clearly my friend from Texas didn't actually read the article or doesn't actually know how to read?  Not really sure.


Oh...and classic...I do have to make a comment about my anon who gave me grief for daring to disparage a writer that graduated from Cambridge!  So sorry.  I didn't know that there was something about graduating from Cambridge that gave writers a pass for laziness and a sloppy work ethic.  And frankly just slimy behavior.  This guy invited Rob to his home and then this is what he wrote?  REALLY?  


You anon may give him a pass for this, but I don't have to.

But...I will say this...as I've already said before and will talk about in more detail below...the issues I have with this article may have nothing to do with the journalist.  The article that he originally turned in to his editor, if I ever have a chance to read it may be just the kind of article that I thought I would read in Esquire.  But as anyone who knows anything about the world of print media, that once a writer turns in his/her articles that's where their involvement ends and the editor can add and delete to their hearts content.



So the interviewer pieced together little things that R said and constructed a narrative around it that is bogus. And people buy it, and get called idiots. But that is precisely what you do! Making inferences from pictures, interpreting their friends' instagrams, looking at little coincidences, and constructing a narrative around it. And you call those things proof of that narrative. So how come when you do it, it's absolute truth?



Okay..so this I also received and this I will address independent of the rest of the riffraff.

But seriously, I'm a blogger...I'm not a well respected publication that's known for in-depth truthful interviews. Not to say that what I've posted on my blog isn't the truth because my followers know that I do believe that what I've discussed over the last several months is true and that I've recently received independent verification. I've basically done an in-depth investigation over the last few months. Noting details and facts along the way. You may disagree with my original premise and my conclusions but none the less this is what I've done.

Also...nothing that I've said put either Kristen or Rob in a bad light. If anything, what I've discussed speaks to their strength. Their fight to keep their private life private and their ability to do so even in light of my little blog and my "reporting". Their strength in fighting for their relationship over the objection of many "fans" or the FAINTERS.   
And just celebrating with them the newest non-furry member of their little family.

But when reading an article in Esquire, I expect a journalist that interviewed a subject to stick to the topics that were actually discussed during the interview. A journalist isn't really supposed to be piecing together a bogus narrative.  Unless this was some in-depth investigation they shouldn't be piecing together a narrative at all.   This interview was just supposed to be an interview to discuss Rob's upcoming projects.  As we all should know by now Rob's not going to ever do an interview where he shares personal details about his relationship with Kristen!


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So...I read the article over again and here's the thing...I can interpret two possibilities...but only one truly makes the most sense to me.

First...let's say that Rob was discussing in a few of his quotes the "incident of 2012"  Well, if so I agree with my anon that said this:


wait whats wrong with what he said? shit happens thats normal and honestly who gives a shit? i thought its a good thing


I have to say, that when it comes to Rob's answers if you accept the writers set up to his quote as being in regards to the "incident of 2012" than really...what is everyone getting freaked out about? Why is anyone giving Rob grief about it? Cause frankly...shit does happen and if I were to interpret that quote in light of the incident than I would say that Rob is over it and he's telling everyone else to get over it.  However, those that want to say he's confirming that he and Kris are done...are reading into the quote what is not said!

But here's the deal.  As most of you know, I've been following Rob and Kristen for a bit now and I've read and seen most all of their interviews.  And the one consistent theme from both of them is that they don't discuss their personal relationships.   So why now would Rob suddenly decide to talk about his personal life and why would he talk about the "incident of 2012"?  

So I can't believe that that's the case with this interview.

Here's what I think happened.  I think that the journalist may very well have had a lovely time with Rob.  He may have tried to get in a few personal questions and I've no doubt that Rob stonewalled him at every turn.  He wrote the article and frankly phoned it in on several of the details.  Like Rob finishing up filming The Rover last summer.  Sorry, but where did he pull that tidbit of information from?  His ass??  It really wouldn't have taken him that much time to find that Rob returned to the US from Australia in March of 2013.  Did he confuse summer with spring?  Maybe not a huge mistake but big enough to put doubts in my mind.

Hey don't these kinds of publications have fact checkers?  You know ppl's who's job it is to verify the fucking facts in an article???  Hmmm....sleeping on the job I'd say!

But let's leave that mistake alone and just look at a perfectly appropriate article about his upcoming movies, how Rob is focusing on who he's working with in terms of directors more than the actual scripts themselves, his penchant for stretching the truth and making up absurd comments during interviews as well as a bit about how crazy everything was for him during the promotion of Twilight.   

He turns in the article to his editor and the editor reads it and just thinks "meh"...good article but we need a bit of drama.  What can we add to this to sell this issue.  What do Rob's fans want?  So if you're an editor and you really don't know the true craziness of this fandom and all it's various factions and really how can you if you aren't part of this craziness, where do you go?  What are you gonna do to find out who your audience is for this article?  You're gonna go online and look at some Rob fan blogs.  And anyone that's ever looked at Rob fan blogs knows what you are going to find.  Cause if the editor is smart, he(or she) isn't just going to see the content of the blog but also the comments.  That's where you are going to find your true audience.  And you and I both know the kind of comments you are going to find on 90% of Rob only blogs.  You are going to find 90% of the comments are going to be someone saying something negative about Kristen, because truly these ppl are obsessed with Kristen.  And you are going to find that in many of these comments about Kristen they are going to say something about the "incident of 2012"  because those ppl are determined to make sure that NO ONE is allowed to put this in the past and that Kristen has to wear a "Scarlet A" around her neck for the rest of her life!

So...if you are an editor seeing this gold mine what are you going to do?  You are going to add in comments about the "incident of 2012" and make sure you talk about Kristen.  Because that's what your audience wants to read about and those are the ppl that will buy this issue.

Your writer already took care of any license you are taking by talking about the fact that Rob lies in interviews...so there you have it your perfect get out of jail free card to use if anyone questions the information included.


...an issue is published with the perfect audience in mind that will unfortunately buy it hook line and sinker!

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Kudos to my critical readers...
Here are comments from my readers that made the same observations as I did!



Hey Mama back from vaca woohoo! Anyway been catching up and I have something to add about the esquire article. Funny thing about his answer about shit happens was where was the question? The answers that weren't personal had questions. The supposed answers about personal stuff had no questions. Wonder what the question really was that elicited his answers? tbellretreat

I think The only parts that Robert really said are the Jimmy Fallon parte and few others. Stop. The rest of the interview is invented , for the most. He told them where he lives? He talks bad about Kris? No fucking way. This is not rob. This is the Robert pattinson that the media wants to make Us believe he is.

I don't take any interview as the gospel truth. And what I've seen of this one is the same crap in a different package. I'm not going to stress over it. I do think Rob needs to get a publicist to put a lid on two years ago. It's getting old and it isn't relevant. Why, do you think, that some people want to believe they were just pr and nothing more? Love you, Sherry

I think when Rob said that shit happens and something about being young, I think he is telling people to get over it like he has. And he won't talk about Kristen to hurt her in an way by talking about it. He wants people to move on about it but the crazies want him to publicly hang her....which is something he would never do. They want blood for Rob whereas Rob is over it and could care less what his so called fans want. The mags just feeds the haters. Rob really needs someone to stop the nuts.

I don't know if someone mentioned this but the actual "quote" (and I put it that way because unless I hear his voice saying the actual words I will believe it) doesn't sound like a coherent answer to any question regarding 07/2012, the part that resonates is "It's just young people" like...I don't know. I just don't feel he is answering something regarding Kristen and what happened, even if he would never talk about it. xo Anne.

Hey MN, I buckled and read the interview. I am glad I did because this so called interview pitiful. Only the last 4 para had any substance to the Rover, the rest was filler. Also, a lot was borderline plagiarism. I've heard and read every quote R and K have said and this article took some of them and twisted them to make a story about R and how he has risen above Twilight. His only interest was doing indie films. Right his interest was K staring in an indie film. fred4me2

R may have said the words "Shit happens" etc., but we don't know what he was answering, or the real context in which he said this. I think he was defending K and urging haters to let the past go - as he and K have. Instead, his comments have been taken out of context and haters are dizzy with glee, whilst trashtoids feed their frenzy whilst making even more money treating R&K like shit. I feel sorry for them both and R must feel like crap today. When will this shit ever stop. It stinks!


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Everything in HW is orchestrated. His team knows exactly what they want to accomplish. They have an image in mind that they want to protest. Privacy my a--. They keep all this going for a reason. Keeps his name in the mags. HW is smoke and mirrors. All he had to do originally is make a yes/no statement that's what other celebs do. It's the end of it.

Yes..there is absolutely a lot of smoke and mirrors in HW...but not everything is smoke and mirrors and as for answering yes/no in an interview you've agreed to do...No my darling that's not the way it works! Plus, please tell me...what questions did this journalist ask Rob? Cause I see no list of questions. Just commentary from the writer leading into quotes that are supposed to coincide within the writers narrative, but we have no idea what Rob was actually asked to know how his quotes actually fit those questions. We also don't know if Rob was quoted correctly and if you think that quotes are not taken out of context or just flat misquoted you know nothing about the media!

And here's a comment that I think is quite pertinent to this particular discussion....

I always pretty much believed anything published interviews have said, until I was interviewed and read the published version. I was in a show and played the main character. I was interviewed by the news paper and I was horrified buy what I read. I didn't say half the things they published. Some of it was what my costar said but they put my name on the end of the quote. I told the director that I was misquoted and he said that they haven't got an interview right in years. Therefore don't take anything published too seriously. Until it comes from him speaking with his voice and going into your ear drums no one should worry about anything

I know there will be ppl that will believe that I made up this comment above and I wish the person had not made it anon but it truly did come to me just as you see it here. But I'm going to add to their comment and say that even in recorded interviews you have to be cautious about how the interview is edited. Make sure you are looking at the context and the full answer not just what is being said but how it's being said. This is even more important when dealing with Rob because as we all know, Rob has his special way of dealing with the media doubly so if discussing topics he doesn't want to discuss!



I dont understand why journalists feel the need to bash kristen it doesn't make rob look good its just a pathetic and underhanded way to sell more articles, i started to read the article and then just stopped when they mentioned the scandal i mean jesus they really don't have anything to go on so they bring up bull from what 2 years ago it just shows how poor this persons journalism skills are.

Me Neither!


Just asking MN will this story (Esquire) generate ANY interest now the Orlando Bloom/Justin Beiber incident has gone viral LOL! anyway I think I am done with this bullshit K is working on her 3rd film this year, with critical acclaim all around her. Rob has done equal to his life partner. Personal life is well + happy let the assholes speculate they have shit + THE Robsessed, fainters + haters Ha Ha u keep talking about K becuz U know in your heart in aint over btwn these 2 , Esq. as bad as THR

Since all I know about the Bloom/Beiber incident is the video I have no earthly idea what you think might be the correlation between these two events! 

But...as for Kristen and Rob they are doing great professionally and personally I think that they are better than ever. At least I know that most new parents are tired but giddy about their new child!

Rob and Kristen are far from being over as much as there are those that wish this to be so!


These magazine articles aren't hurting Kristen. What are they going to say about Kristen that hasn't already been said? They're hurting Robert because they're letting 2-yr-old news take over articles about his current career. I've never heard any man say, "I'm going to see that man's movie because he & his girlfriend had problems." Who's actually talking about The Rover right now because of that article? If they believe his relationship is over, then y keep bringing it up? I'm sad for him.

I disagree, I think every time that the "incident of 2012" is brought up it hurts Kristen. Maybe not professionally since I think HW is smarter than we sometimes give it credit. At least it seems obvious from all the projects Kristen has in the can, currently in production and soon to filmed that she's doing just fine and whatever the fuck happened back in 2012 has had no bearing upon her career. 
  (interesting that that same event seems to have ruined another's career...I think that speaks loudly to who was seen in the industry as being more culpable! Just desserts if you ask me!)

But I will agree that I think that this does hurt Rob. You are right, the general public that might be drawn to one of Rob's new movies doesn't give a shit about his personal life. It's only us crazy fans that are hyper aware of his every move.


I am fascinated by how threatened ppl are by Kristen, what is their need to attack here, do they honestly think by insulting her, they automatically raise Rob's profile? that is so stupid, just fascinated why this stupid incident from so long ago carries so much weight in the media, Why were so many happy to see the so-called demise of RK, why did that bother them, why this obsession with attacking her? can anyone answer this question becuz I have seen many media stories come and go but not this

anon you pose so many good questions and I wish I had answers that were better than the ones I've been posing for months now. When it comes to the media I think that it's just that for them drama sells. But the larger picture as to who is threatened by Kristen? That is truly the $64M question. And to me I think maybe you just need to go back to the top of my post and see the comments there. Most of these ppl truly feel threatened by her it's obvious regarding the comments that they made.




Love your blog, Rob be a damn man, and put the stop to these fricken attacks on Kristen, So sick of her being the fricken punching bag to every wanna be writer in LIARWOOD!! 2012 is over and done with, stop the Trampire crap!! God, that pisses me off!! How about the next writer ask Rob, "How grateful are you that Kristen chose YOU, to go on this journey with her?" BTW, By her being mentioned in every fricken written so called interview, she totally owns their asses!!! Bow down Bitches!!

I think that if there was truly something to be gained Rob would speak up. But as I've said so many times he and Kristen are caught between a rock and a hard place. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. 

I totally agree that the "trampire" comment in the interview was totally unnecessary. But I would remind ppl...go back and watch Will Farrell again. Actually LISTEN to what he is saying and who his comment is actually directed at. He's not making fun of Kristen with this comment. He's making fun of all the robsessed/FAINTERS and doing it brilliantly...so much so that they don't even pick up on his utter disdain for them and making really NOTHING into way more than it EVER was!

But you are right about Kristen owning their asses! Just like I've said several times, the robsessed/FAINTERS were Esquires chosen audience for this article and we've all known for years that Kristen owns their asses!



carowren said:  Keep sharps away from me. As one who taught how to separate fact from fiction and differentiate between sources from others who have nothing to gain, I just might cut my throat. I can not believe Anon who thinks every thing she reads in any magazine must be the truth.I notice that foreign journalists seem to have the most trouble writing credible information gained directly from R. R's management do not control what is said. R trolls out of self defense. He needs a publicist to stop the probes.


This is what I've wanted to read for ages. I was upset how Kristen was treated after the pictures came out and the did regard for the fact that it happened 2 years ago. I like the idea they are still together with a family. Esquire is for twits. Rob has even admitted he makes things up so people don't know about his life. And Kristen never tells. The press are fuelling sick fantasies from Robs fans that disregard Kristen and it makes me mad. But I bet she could not give a shit I'm glad x




I don't know. I feel differently about the article. Rob said (and has said before) that he is making a conscious effort to stay out of the toids. What better way for both K and him to do that than to have "legit" mags sell it? That way interest in them as a couple dies down and they can start living more normal lives. The real fans will always know the truth just like we did from the beginning, and still know now.

I'm sorry, but I can't see Rob every agreeing to do this! If that's what this article was meant to do this billed it wrong and it should have only focused on that and the truth is the article was disjointed and was all over the place without any true focus!

MN I need to vent. I am a bit annoyed that everyone is running with the esquire article and framing it around the incident - thought a bit more about yahoo but now I know. Many will have egg on their face when the truth comes out! Time to egg the nonnies, tabs and all.


immsjessel said:  I dunno. I just find it unusual. It seems like its not Rob. Its like there is a different person talking. Its not the usual Robert-sque kind of interview. The funny answers. Ugh. I cant explain it. I just think something is wrong in the interview. Plus, whenever its about K haters are always there. What is it about K that they hate so much? Oohh I know a certain man that they can never have. A good life. A love life. Success. Happiness. They are a bunch of envy trolls.

Hi Phronsie! Well this Esquire's interview make noise didn't it ! All this (the drama and lies etc) is exactly the reason I stopped getting excited to read ANY R's written interviews since the Dior's campaign! Even then they were getting on my nerves so much ALWAYS bringing up K and the past !!! With or without her, she's always mentioned, each and every single time ! Like I said before K should be the one getting paid by the mags for the promo and stuff because it's all about her ! Anabelle

Interviews are half truths. You agree to talk about work not your personal life unless you WANT to talk about it. He didn't give the interviewer a lot to go on, hence bringing up K many times. So whatever shit is written or thrown at her, she rises.

Sorry Rob's mgmt does not get final approval on what goes in those articles. He has complained in the past about being misquoted in interviews. Do people really think Mr. I Don't Sell My Private Life would've been ok with all the personal details in this article?

christine51us said:  Well I read the article and I knew before the I was thru the first paragraph that it was going to be full of BS. I think all of your followers should go to there site and tell them what they think of there article. I know I'm going to look it up and do just that. I think the only way they will ever do a story that isn't full of BS is to protest. If enough of his and Kristen's fans do it will stop.

I wholeheartedly agree! I certainly hope that anyone that is a fan and true supporter of the two of these great talents will not run out and buy this and will go and let Esquire know that they did a shoddy job on this article and they missed the mark on who their true audience is regarding Rob. So I would encourage all my followers to share your feelings with Esquire!


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My Lovers!



Love you and keep up the good fight. I would like to think that Rob and Kristen got marrried on the Isle of Wight during his two month visit home since they spent some time there. In late autumn early winter last year was the longest period that Rob stayed with his famiy in recent years so maybe he with his family's help co-ordinate the wedding.

loveinstar said:  I just read your last Q&A posts hun. So many are crazed out from some interview Rob had. Honestly, I don't bother to read them. Like I told you before, I am not so much into the social life of stars. But I love RK+baby. I love your blog. It's a blessing bc, I can see what you see. Sadly we all know how the media loves to squeeze and press everything into a light that fit the tabloids like said interview. So when I want to know something, I have your blog <3♥


HI!!! I just want to say your posts make me really happy. *giggles*




Wow everyday is always a drama in this fandom. Take a rest mama you deserve one.you've done enough answering these hateful comments from people. Seriously let them talk and make fool of themselves, they'll got tired eventually


I think after this post, I'm gonna put to rest the topic of this article and that you are right I do deserve a rest!

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I don't know about y'all but if this article proved anything to me at all it's either that the robsessed/Fainters need some serious therapy or they are feeling the shaking ground upon which they are walking and it's making them a bit pissy!

What do you think?


Until the next drama ensues....
(damn I wonder how long my hands have to recuperate??)


Saturday, May 31, 2014

Investigations called for....

Good afternoon my darlings....I hope the rest of you are out enjoying your day, I will be heading out momentarily...I think that I'm gonna try to make a break for it.


So this showed up on several blogs, chat boards and the like from some anonymous poster...

Please Investigate These People • 18 hours ago

The following individuals are guilty of making up horrible rumors and lies about Robert Pattinson. They have claimed that he and Kristen Stewart's child was born in March 2014, is married to Kristen Stewart, and is living with her:

@Sash_marie101 is the person who started the pregnancy rumor. She said that she is an entertainment law student, and that Robert Pattinson's people leaked the info about Kristen Stewart being pregnant with his baby to her. @HatersNoNothing said that she has a cousin working for Kristen Stewart that is leaking private information to her. She also says that Kristen Stewart just gave birth to Robert Pattinson's baby. @bronzehyperion is a fan fiction author insisting that everything SashMarie and HKN reported is true. @SRWNS is also known as Mama Nails, and is also spreading the lie that Kristen Stewart just gave birth to Robert Pattinson's baby. @Windswept333 is a former fan fiction author turned pro, who is also insisting that Kristen Stewart just gave birth to Robert Pattinson's baby. There's another one by the name of Bunny Sherman, who claims that she is Kristen Stewart's long lost relative and has also said that Kristen Stewart just gave birth to Robert Pattinson's baby. I can't remember her twitter name but it's Rob fan something.

I believe that these people are trying to harm the reputations of Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart and ought to be investigated and reported to the proper authorities. They also have 100's of innocent people believing their lies. I'm concerned that they may attempt to collect monetary donations for the baby that never was.


I had heard that I had made some shit list on twitter the other day, but I didn't know what it was until another twitter peep posted a twitlonger and this was included....Here's my first gut response!



This is the funniest thing that I've seen in a long time.  Did this person even go back and re-read what they wrote after they wrote it?  Do they even have one clue how utterly ridiculous that they sound??

How exactly is saying that Rob and Kristen are married and have a baby hurting their reputations?  What about all the ppl out there that are claiming that Rob is fucking every woman that he comes within spitting distance of, or the rumors that someone started that he was seen snorting cocaine???

As for Kristen, what about the people and hell the fucking mass media that will not let that woman move on from July 2012???  

So again I ask, how am I or any of the other women mentioned on this little rant hurting their reputations?

But the more important point would be, what is to be investigated?  The accusation that any of us have been seeking out monetary donations for the baby is utterly ridiculous.

So please, please tell me what and who is going to come and arrest me?



Oh...him...I'm here ready and waiting...bring on those cuffs!


Oh, David, did I forget to mention that I had a pair of my very own???....


But seriously, I'm touched to be called out in this way.  First it really made my day and second I know the women that were called out and I'd say that I'm in very good company!

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"The following individuals are guilty of making up horrible rumors and lies about #RobertPattinson," you said.

You have the fucking audacity to report and name people, accusing them of making horrible rumors; and what exactly are you doing? You said, "I believe that these people are trying to harm the reputations of Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart." If you are so fucking concerned about them, why not report the bitch who blatantly tweeted that she knew how to kill Kristen Stewart but just doesn't know how to hide her body? Ha? Why not report the tabloids, bloggers, or HL, Star mag, and other rags, and fans reporting Rob is dating every fucking human being that happens to be where he is; for writing about him allegedly caught snorting cocaine? You'd rather have him date different women, marring his image as "man-whore," insinuating that he has no respect for woman---than entertain the thought that he is still in love and still is with Kristen Stewart.

You gave a little background of every one you named. And quite honestly, they seemed to be relevant! A law-student; a cousin of someone who works for Kristen Stewart; a fanfic AUTHOR; another fanfic AUTHOR who turned PRO, a long lost relative of Kristen Stewart. Like, wow!!! If anything, I believe that you are threatened that they could be telling the truth! And if they are telling the truth, then you and your fantasy about and with Robert Pattinson needs to be tweaked! Like big time! They hold an information that you pray hard to be untrue! It's fear. It is as though a part of you believes they could be telling the truth. Because If we think about this rationally, why would these individuals gamble their reputation for what you call, "lies?" They are, after all, authors, relative, and most-followed "shippers" of the "fandom."

So, Kristen Stewart may have carried Rob's child, their love-child, and may have given birth a few weeks ago... Why investigate the people who believe it is so? To me, it's a beautiful idea. It's an idea that spells perfect love! It's my choice to believe them or not. It's every follower choice to believe them or not. It's our right to believe or not to believe. You belittle me and every one to say that we believe in lies. We have brains. I have a fucking degree! It's my prerogative to think, to believe, or not to believe... We did not appoint you to lead us!

Now, why do I think that the people you named are relevant? Because they DON'T SPEAK badly about Robert Pattinson or Kristen Stewart. If anything, they praise their work, their talent, their character, their personality... them, ROB and KRISTEN, as human beings. They rejoice in their successes and don't judge them. The individuals you have named, if anything, are the true supporters of the two and their careers!

You also stated this: "I'm concerned that they may attempt to collect monetary donations for the baby that never was." The hell!!! We are not stupid! Why would I donate money to a baby who has more money than I do! I'd be working my ass off until I'm 65 and I know their child has no need to work for the rest of his/her life to survive! What's the logic behind this though, by the way? Please enlighten me.

This has gone too far. If they are wrong, then they are wrong. So we move on. If they are right... I know what I'd be doing. One word: "rejoicing!" I'm being real here.

Now, let me ask you this? What if they are right? What would you do?


This is a twitlonger by @Ate_Ofie


And I'm going to allow her to have the last word....

Wait...crap...


SHIT!  Someone's at my door...it's not Booth.  Gotta go...You'll know what's going on if you don't hear from me again!





Friday, May 16, 2014

Flush Friday Vol. I

Welcome to the my first volume of Flush Friday
This post is dedicated to flushing all my trash.

HTT Trash
I think it's disappointing that so many of you can't see past Kristen Stewart's romantic life or lack thereof. She's obviously working hard to build a career she can be proud of and the thing you all choose to focus on is who she may or not be screwing. You don't care about her at all--you care about yourselves and your own selfish fantasies.

Ahhh...my forever favorite kind of trash...the HTT...Holier Than thou fan...well my dear, it's so easy to just focus on her career and not her personal life and if you really were practicing what you are preaching then you wouldn't have even stumbled upon my blog.  And yet you did... I think you must be thinking about your own selfish fantasies.  You for whatever reason want her to be single.  That's fine that's great, but don't come talking to me about fantasies.  

As for her career, I know myself and my followers are incredibly proud of her career both her past career and her future.  We not only follow her current projects like the fact that she's currently filming American Ultra in New Orleans with Jesse Eisenberg, but we are thrilled beyond belief that Cloud's of Sils Maria will be premiering at Cannes next week!  I've always admitted to being part of the fandom that is just as much invested in her career as I am in her real-life love story with Robert Pattinson.  And I have no guilt or remorse about it, and you can take your holier than thou attitude and go fuck yourself!

It's obvious that you are either full of shit or that you for some reason feel bad about being interested in her personal life. 
(again I point out that you came to my blog and read enough to get a gist about what I blog about) 
You are such a hypocrite...and I really hate hypocrites that hide under sanctimonious bullshit!


Just admit it!  You are just as "bad" as the rest of us!
FLUSH!



Crybaby Trash
All I ever wanted was to be able to enjoy Rob and Kristen Together. It seems that they don't want good fans to enjoy their lives together. I don't mean details. Just a glimpse like all the other couples. Why don't they want the good people to enjoy a small part of their lives? Is this all the doing of Hoolywood mangers? Now all we get is hate especially for Kristen. At this point just one way or they other. If they have moved on just say it.



And then we have the cry baby fan that thinks they are entitled to "glimpses" into Rob and Kristen's private lives.  I may talk about it and I my hope to see pix of them together, but I don't cry about it and I don't expect it cause they don't owe it to me.  That is not why I'm a fan.  I am a fan because they are two extremely talented individuals that just happen to be in a relationship together.  So go find another blogger that will deal with your crybaby attitude cause I will not!  Or are you just a troll trying to come at "their broken" up a different way?  

Since k is single now, who do you think she should date next???

Again..someone thinks they're being cute!

Ok.... If kristen is SO private, hates attention, etc. WHY is she doing ad campaigns and WHY is she attending the met gala? Bizarre to me.

What a fucking idiot you are for not knowing the difference between what Kristen does for PR vs keeping her fucking personal life personal!  Are you really that fucking stupid?  Or are you just here to piss me off?  Well congratulations you did both!  So just because she wants to keep her private life private, she's not allowed to go to charitable events 
The Met Gala is a huge charity event it cost Kristen $25,000 to attend
And again, how does helping her promote herself professionally by working with Chanel and Karl Lagerfeld have anything to do with protecting her private life? You are an idiot!


you're in denial


anon, I keep telling you to stop looking in the mirror self-reflection is not good for you...but then again admitting to ones issues is the first step into recovering...


FLUSH!


Pregnancy Police/Cannes Trash

Shouldn't a supposed 8 months pregnant woman have swollen feet by now????????? What's the execuse for this now???????




Oh really?! EVERY woman in their 8th month of pregnancy has swollen feet? I wasn't aware of this...oh then my dear you must be right...she couldn't possibly be pregnant... hmmmm??? But that begs the question, how is it that you are so familiar with Kristen's feet to know for certain that they weren't swollen??? You are making me very nervous the more I am thinking about this...

Just read R will be at Paris premiere of MTTS on June 21st, so would not have been in Cannes when K was there for her red carpet. I couldn't see her going alone maybe that is why she isn't going.



hmmmm??? did we get confused??? What does June 21st have to do with Cannes?? June 21st is a month after Cannes...did you mean May 21st?  And Kristen's premiere is on May 23rd...dipshit...so you be wrong!  If Kristen does not attend it has nothing to do with Rob.  I don't know who you think you are fucking talking about, but Kristen isn't some simpering weak woman that needs her man with her 24/7!  If Rob can't attend her movie premiere, she'd go just like she'd go to any of her other movie premieres.  Rob has never walked the Red Carpet at one of those events and she's gone and done just fine!  IF Kristen doesn't attend its due to her film schedule (this will be the public excuse) or her pregnancy or really possibly both!  Movies are done on budgets and they can't always give actors time off...you know this when you sign on to the movie.  I'm sure they are trying to get her there if indeed her doctor has cleared her to travel overseas!

And for you....you need to stop being Kristen's fan...you need to go be a fan of some wishy washy man clinging actress!  Because you suck as a Kristen fan.  A TRUE Kristen fan would NEVER question whether Kristen would attend a work event (this being one hell of a work event) because her partner might not be able to attend with her!  You don't know shit about this woman!


Yea right...of course. Rob is going to be in Cannes during the birth. Nice Daddy...you are really stupid.


Who said that Kristen was giving birth during Cannes???  Cause I know I never did...Do you know something that I don't know my dear... or is it that you are the stupid one!  Oh....that must be it!

Just so we're clear... Rob is leaving from LA not NOLA (where he has NEVER been seen). And your response is... What exactly?


OMG you got me anon....Wait...what the fuck is your point EXACTLY?  You think because Rob left from LA to go to Cannes that means he's never been to NOLA?  Are you really that much of an idiot?  Rob's never been spotted (at least that anyone's made the rest of the fandom aware of...not every fan gets on social media to shout to the world that they saw a celebrity!) so that means he's never been there.  He's barely been seen in LA...but you believe he's been there the whole time and never left?  My response EXACTLY is that you are a fucking idiot and congrats for coming to my blog to admit it.  As I told my other anon...admitting to your problem is the first step toward recovery!


FLUSH!


The backseat blogger!
Before you wrote an answer to a question actually go and look for the answer. Charlotte posted that pic THREE WEEKS ago.




Anon...since you are giving me shit...how bout you write your question grammatically correct before you send it?! "before you wrote a response?" should be "before you write a response!" so fucking get it right before you send me a question or a fucking comment!

I just love anons that obviously don't run their own blog that expect so much from me...

To update those that may have missed one of my non-anon peeps asked me what I thought of the jewelry that Kristen was wearing on the cover of a magazine.  She didn't give me any more information than that...I went looking around on tumblr even looked at RobstenDreams and didn't see anything.  I thought it must be pretty recent since I was just now being asked about.  Well since I didn't know what she was talking about I told her so and asked for more info...

Then this fucking anon decided to get involved and tell me that I should research before I answer.  

Well...fuck you anon!  I did and I would never have thought to go back 3 fucking weeks to find something, things change quickly with these two and I try to be up-to-date with what's going on!  I don’t know who Charlotte is, if she's so fucking perfect why would you even need to follow me?!

Is it too much to ask if ppl are asking me a question that they be more clear?? If you want a fucking answer from me…maybe you can do some of the work…I’m not here to be at your beck and call…I dare you to do this the way I do.

The funny thing is that right after this anon went off on me for the way I responded to my peep, my peep came back apologizing for not giving me more information.  I found what she needed and got back to her...she came back again surprised and pleased that I responded so quickly!  If you point me in the right direction it really takes me no time to find what you need most of the time.  LOL

Geez...some ppl expect too fucking much from bloggers. 

 
Here in ends my first Flush Friday and feel free to take Paul Rudd's advice and Fuck OFF!
FLUSH!